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We need to be careful when comparing US and UK cancer care

by Henry Scowcroft | Analysis

17 August 2009

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The US healthcare system is being reformed

The US healthcare system is being reformed

It’s often said that where the US goes, we Brits will follow – and that’s certainly been true over the last week or so.

America is in the middle of a lengthy, bitter and at times bizarre debate, as President Obama tries to reform the US healthcare system. And as the debate has spilled over into the British media, focus has fixed on the relative pros and cons of our NHS.

As well as becoming the focus of newspaper columns and radio phone-ins, the debate has also set the internet alight, with commentators on both sides feeling compelled to ‘have their say’, as exemplified on social microblogging site Twitter.

Given that both the US and the UK economies are in recession, and both countries are facing spiralling healthcare costs as their populations age, it’s absolutely right that we have a proper and informed debate about how best to provide healthcare.

Cancer is a key area of concern for healthcare providers, not least because alongside demographic and economic problems, new-generation cancer treatments tend to be more expensive than their forerunners.

But over the last week, facts and figures about UK cancer care have been taken out of context on several occasions, and used to make questionable points about the NHS. So let’s set the record straight.

‘Breast cancer kills more frequently in the UK’

 

One stat that we were asked to comment on  is a statistic comparing breast cancer death rates in the two countries:

Breast cancer kills 25 percent of its American victims. In Great Britain …breast cancer extinguishes 46 percent of its targets.

We don’t know where this figure has come from. However, according to GLOBOCAN – an international comparison carried out in 2002 and probably the most recent comparable figures, the age-standardised figures are 24 deaths per 100,000 Britons, and 19 per 100,000 Americans – not nearly so dramatic a difference.

‘Fewer prostate cancer patients survive five years’

Another fact that has been widely quoted relates to prostate cancer. As the Guardian wrote:

A Lancet Oncology global study last year found that 91.9 per cent of Americans with the disease were still alive after five years compared to just 51.1 per cent in the UK.

On the face of it, these figures are indeed valid. They come from the CONCORD study, which we helped fund, and compared 5-year survival rates between many different countries.

But just comparing the US and the UK, and saying that the bigger number is ‘better’, misses a deeper truth.

As we’ve written before, the US uses the PSA blood test far more widely than we do in the UK – despite questions over how effective it is at spotting cancers that would actually kill, as opposed to those that cause no symptoms.

As a result, the USA has one of the highest recorded rates of prostate cancer in the world.

So although it’s undoubtedly ‘better’ at spotting prostate cancers, it’s also fair to say that some of these Americans will never die from their disease.

This ‘overdiagnosis’ inflates the survival statistics, at the expense of ‘overtreating’ men – which is expensive and can cause long-term side effects (which can need further treatment).

So you might just as well argue that the ‘91 per cent’ survival figure could be due to a system that overdiagnoses and overtreats prostate cancer, as opposed to saying our 51 per cent stat is due to poor healthcare in the UK. Bigger is not always better.

Finally, if you look at UK survival rates for early stage prostate cancer, a different picture emerges – men in the UK have a 98.6 per cent five-year survival rate. Clearly, whatever controversies surround the diagnosis of the disease, the NHS is doing a pretty good job of managing it when it’s detected early.

‘UK cancer patients find it harder to see an oncologist’

According to the Mirror, some US anti-reform adverts have been stating that 40 per cent of UK cancer patients “are never able to see an oncologist”. This figure originates from a report titled “Review of the pattern of cancer services in England and Wales” published by the Association of Cancer Physicians in 1994 – years before the NHS Cancer Plan and the Cancer Reform Strategy were put in place.

But things have improved hugely since 1994, thanks to the priority the UK government has placed on cancer care. Nowadays, the vast majority of cancer patients in the UK see a specialist within two weeks.

The dangers of international comparison

Another big difference between UK and US cancer statistics is that in the UK, every single cancer diagnosis and death is registered nationally. In the US there is not nearly such complete data. So even comparing data that’s been properly standardised doesn’t give the whole picture – as we mentioned when discussing the EUROCARE european data a while back.

But it’s only valid to compare international statistics, of any sort, if you compare like with like – and this is extremely difficult to do between different populations, especially when the nature of the data is fundamentally different.

We’re not saying the NHS is perfect. There’s a long way to go with many aspects of cancer care – early diagnosis, access to treatment, and end of life care, to name a few. But the picture that’s currently being painted in some quarters is very different from the reality.

And that reality is a picture where UK death rates from all cancers have fallen by almost 20 per cent in the last 40 years, and where overall five-year survival figures have doubled over the last 30.

Death rates for three of the most common cancers – breast, bowel and male lung cancer – have all dropped to their lowest levels in 40 years. And since the NHS was founded 60 years ago, survival for breast and bowel cancers has more than doubled.

The patient perspective

 

As a final note, the statistics we’ve discussed in this post are, by their very nature, averages.

But when you’re diagnosed with cancer, doctors generally give you statistics that are more relevant to the type or stage of disease you yourself have – and these may be different from those above.

If you are a cancer patient, or know someone who is, and you have question about cancer, its treatment or care, have a look at our patient information website CancerHelp UK, or telephone our Information Nurses on freephone 0808 800 4040.

Henry


    Comments

  • charlie
    25 February 2010

    As a yank who is also a health care provider I am interested in how the rest of the world manages health care. I am well aware of the holes in the American system and so, when I see statistics that make us look so good and Europe look third world, I know something is wrong. Thank you for an informative article

  • Patrick
    5 October 2009

    You may have messed up.

    Women in Britton may actually have breast cancer at lower rates (or be less likely to be diagnosed with breast cancer) than American women. Still, of them 46 percent who are diagnosed with Breast cancer could still die. Therefore the 24 in 100,000 and 46 percent numbers can both be true.

  • Azmina Verjee
    16 September 2009

    Thank you to Henry, for explaining the truth behind the headlines. We need a cancer-only version of Ben Goldacre’s ‘Bad Science’.
    Barriers to transatlantic cancer research need to be pulled down. Clinical resaerchers often say that the UK and US are too different for collaboration to work. But how much of that ‘difference’ is real?

  • Alex
    22 August 2009

    “A mischievous observer could interpret this as meaning that there are 25 per cent more “deaths per 100,000″ in the UK.”

    That is in fact what a lot of people in the media do. They will look at the increase in risk in relative terms (e.g. 25%) for scare headlines, but generally won’t give the absolute increase in risk, or at best bury that info near the bottom of the article.

    If someone told me that doing X doubled my chances of being struck by lightning, I’d say, “so what”? Absolute risk is generally more important.

  • Catherine
    19 August 2009

    Thank you for this!

    I’ve been going around in circles for a while on these statistics with a republican “chum” of mine- this should shut him up for a while.

    As someone who used to work with prostate cancer researchers, wonderful to see the differential on PSA testing. I’d never been aware of the problems of overdiagnosis and it’s an important issue.

  • Ruth Billheimer
    18 August 2009

    I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2002. I found a lump first week in January, saw the doctor 2 days later and by the first week in March I had had my tests, my diagnosis and my mastectomy and the cancer was gone. That’s two months all told. Afterwards I had to have chemotherapy to stop it from coming back and I have been offered reconstruction if I want it, which I don’t.I still get a mammogram and checkups very year, and I will till I get to the 10th anniversary, then I go back into the normal screening programme. All free on the NHS. Thank you for trying to put some sense into this discussion.

  • Henry Scowcroft
    18 August 2009

    Indeed they could Michael – but the reason we quoted those stats wasn’t really to illustrate the relative merits of the NHS vs the US’s healthcare systems.

    Yes there’s a significant difference (in the colloquial sense), but the two countries have very different ways of managing their breast screening programmes, and there are similar caveats and confounding factors here, just as there are in the case of the prostate cancer statistics we discussed.

    Our point was not ‘x’ is better than ‘y’ – it was that comparing ‘x’ and ‘y’ is much more complex than saying one is bigger than the other!

  • Michael Kenward
    17 August 2009

    “the age-standardised figures are 24 deaths per 100,000 Britons, and 19 per 100,000 Americans”

    A mischievous observer could interpret this as meaning that there are 25 per cent more “deaths per 100,000” in the UK.

    Not nearly so dramatic a difference, indeed, but pretty significant all the same.

  • Ruth
    17 August 2009

    Thank you for this post. I know of several patients who felt, reading these comparisons, that they’d been lied to by their doctors. In fact they were being misled by the media.

    It’s very helpful to have sites like this to explain the facts in a coherent fashion.

  • Jack
    17 August 2009

    A very informative post, I can only hope more people read it.

  • Alex
    17 August 2009

    Excellent, sensible post. Unfortunately actual facts have never been able to corrall the stampede of misinformation and panic.

    Despite being someone who has plenty of misgivings about the NHS, I am watching a friend going through cancer treatment in its care and I am thoroughly impressed with the level and efficiency of treatment and the extensive support she’s being offered. So I readily believe that, at least when it comes to cancer, improvements have been and are being seen.

    Comments

  • charlie
    25 February 2010

    As a yank who is also a health care provider I am interested in how the rest of the world manages health care. I am well aware of the holes in the American system and so, when I see statistics that make us look so good and Europe look third world, I know something is wrong. Thank you for an informative article

  • Patrick
    5 October 2009

    You may have messed up.

    Women in Britton may actually have breast cancer at lower rates (or be less likely to be diagnosed with breast cancer) than American women. Still, of them 46 percent who are diagnosed with Breast cancer could still die. Therefore the 24 in 100,000 and 46 percent numbers can both be true.

  • Azmina Verjee
    16 September 2009

    Thank you to Henry, for explaining the truth behind the headlines. We need a cancer-only version of Ben Goldacre’s ‘Bad Science’.
    Barriers to transatlantic cancer research need to be pulled down. Clinical resaerchers often say that the UK and US are too different for collaboration to work. But how much of that ‘difference’ is real?

  • Alex
    22 August 2009

    “A mischievous observer could interpret this as meaning that there are 25 per cent more “deaths per 100,000″ in the UK.”

    That is in fact what a lot of people in the media do. They will look at the increase in risk in relative terms (e.g. 25%) for scare headlines, but generally won’t give the absolute increase in risk, or at best bury that info near the bottom of the article.

    If someone told me that doing X doubled my chances of being struck by lightning, I’d say, “so what”? Absolute risk is generally more important.

  • Catherine
    19 August 2009

    Thank you for this!

    I’ve been going around in circles for a while on these statistics with a republican “chum” of mine- this should shut him up for a while.

    As someone who used to work with prostate cancer researchers, wonderful to see the differential on PSA testing. I’d never been aware of the problems of overdiagnosis and it’s an important issue.

  • Ruth Billheimer
    18 August 2009

    I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2002. I found a lump first week in January, saw the doctor 2 days later and by the first week in March I had had my tests, my diagnosis and my mastectomy and the cancer was gone. That’s two months all told. Afterwards I had to have chemotherapy to stop it from coming back and I have been offered reconstruction if I want it, which I don’t.I still get a mammogram and checkups very year, and I will till I get to the 10th anniversary, then I go back into the normal screening programme. All free on the NHS. Thank you for trying to put some sense into this discussion.

  • Henry Scowcroft
    18 August 2009

    Indeed they could Michael – but the reason we quoted those stats wasn’t really to illustrate the relative merits of the NHS vs the US’s healthcare systems.

    Yes there’s a significant difference (in the colloquial sense), but the two countries have very different ways of managing their breast screening programmes, and there are similar caveats and confounding factors here, just as there are in the case of the prostate cancer statistics we discussed.

    Our point was not ‘x’ is better than ‘y’ – it was that comparing ‘x’ and ‘y’ is much more complex than saying one is bigger than the other!

  • Michael Kenward
    17 August 2009

    “the age-standardised figures are 24 deaths per 100,000 Britons, and 19 per 100,000 Americans”

    A mischievous observer could interpret this as meaning that there are 25 per cent more “deaths per 100,000” in the UK.

    Not nearly so dramatic a difference, indeed, but pretty significant all the same.

  • Ruth
    17 August 2009

    Thank you for this post. I know of several patients who felt, reading these comparisons, that they’d been lied to by their doctors. In fact they were being misled by the media.

    It’s very helpful to have sites like this to explain the facts in a coherent fashion.

  • Jack
    17 August 2009

    A very informative post, I can only hope more people read it.

  • Alex
    17 August 2009

    Excellent, sensible post. Unfortunately actual facts have never been able to corrall the stampede of misinformation and panic.

    Despite being someone who has plenty of misgivings about the NHS, I am watching a friend going through cancer treatment in its care and I am thoroughly impressed with the level and efficiency of treatment and the extensive support she’s being offered. So I readily believe that, at least when it comes to cancer, improvements have been and are being seen.